Some notes to help with wingz difficulties A note on changing the colours =============================== Take notice of the Linez in my wingz if you want to change the colour of the "flight feathers" at the back of the wingz. Look here: ;xtra lef 122, 97, 0, 140, 13, 13, 100, 100 123, 97, 0, 130, 13, 13, 100, 100 124, 122, 0, -1, 13, 13, 100, 100 125, 123, 0, -1, 13, 13, 100, 100 126, 97, 0, 249, 13, 13, 100, 100 127, 126, 0, -1, 13, 13, 100, 100 140, 130 and 249 are specified colours for the linez. Where you see -1 in that column, it means "take the colour from the ball in the first column", but you can specify a colour as I did there. So, either specify your own colour or change it to -1, depending on what you want. A note on fixing the "off one shoulder" effect of sweaters on winged breedz =========================================================================== The problem with only one of the wingz -- the "off one shoulder" fashionable look (LOL!) -- boils down to the fact that the base ball for each wing is made relevant to each shoulder, and for some unfathomable reason the left shoulder does not pass on its clothes properties to that base ball. I don't have time to delve further into this, but a working solution is to change the base balls to be relevant to the elbows instead of the shoulders. So if you don't want that "off the shoulder" look in any winged breedz of mine, put this, in dogz-based breedz: ;base x y z (etc) 7 0, -90, 32, ;xtra R wing 31 0, -90, 32, (etc) instead of this: ;base x y z (etc) 18 9, -70, 42, ;xtra R wing 42 -9, -70, 42, (etc) and this, in catz-based breedz: ;base x y z (etc) 12 0, -90, 32, (etc) ;xtra R wing 13 0, -90, 32, (etc) instead of this: ;base x y z (etc) 38 9, -70, 42, (etc) ;xtra R wing 39 -9, -70, 42, (etc) I'll be releasind a load of "base" winged breedz soon, one for each P.F.Magic original breed, with the wingz altered in this way, but I'll be keeping all the winged hexies that are already at my site the way they are. I rather like the quirky effect :-) But if you want 'em different in your game, then change those two lines as indicated above. Enjoy Carolyn Horn