>I have downloaded two of your Petz4 clothes hexing >tutorials, which turned out to be the exact same thing, Well, the second one is actually an update on the first; it includes making the Hosts's clothing available for your pets. Pets 4 clothing is otherwise essentially the same as Petz 3 clothing in terms of editing. >and neither can give >me any explanation on hexing shirts. okay, I understand it is a flat clothing >item, but I want to know some of the specifics as to where the balls are! I can give you a general shirt/sweater type of mini-tutorial here, with any luck that'll cover whatever your problem is. The shirt-editing is the same as for the Pants, the clothing ballz are simply attached to different ballz in the dog or cat. In most of my tutorials I had addenda which listed the ballz of dogz and catz with their numbers; I guess I thought people would be able to figure it out themselves for the clothes. I'll pop those in here for you, maybe that will help: For Catz 3 and 4: +++++++++++++++++ Ballz number list; L means left and R means right. ------------------------------------------------- The main list goes from 0-66: 0 ankleL, 1 ankleR, 2 belly, 3 butt, 4 cheekL, 5 cheekR, 6 chest, 7 chin, 8 earL1, 9 earL2, 10 earR1, 11 earR2, 12 elbowL, 13 elbowR, 14 eyeL, 15 eyeR, 16 fingerL1, 17 fingerL2, 18 fingerL3, 19 fingerR1, 20 fingerR2, 21 fingerR3, 22 handL, 23 handR, 24 head, 25 hipL, 26 hipR, 27 irisL, 28 irisR, 29 jaw, 30 jowlL 31 jowlR, 32 kneeL, 33 kneeR, 34 knuckleL, 35 knuckleR, 36 neck, 37 nose, 38 shoulderL, 39 shoulderR, 40 snout 41 soleL (i.e. the foot), 42 soleR (i.e. the foot), 43 tail1 (nearest to the butt), 44 tail2, 45 tail3, 46 tail4, 47 tail5, 48 tail6 (tip), 49 toeL1, 50 toeL2, 51 toeL3, 52 toeR1, 53 toeR2, 54 toeR3, 55 tongue1, 56 tongue2, 57 whiskerL1 58 whiskerL2, 59 whiskerL3, 60 whiskerR1 61 whiskerR2, 62 whiskerR3, 63 wristL, 64 wristR, 65 zorient, 66 ztrans The Animator's Add Balls are a little different in each breed, because of the different needs that different breedz have. For instance, the Tabby cat has stripes which need to be specified... You can work them out by studying the relevant breed's .LNZ, but I'm not including them here because they aren't relevant to shirts. For Dogz 3 and 4: +++++++++++++++++ Ballz number list; L means left and R means right. ------------------------------------------------- The main list goes from 0-66: 0 ;L ankle 1 ;L eyebrow1 2 ;L eyebrow2 3 ;L eyebrow3 4 ;L ear1 5 ;L ear2 6 ;L ear3 7 ;L elbow 8 ;L eye 9 ;L finger1 10 ;L finger2 11 ;L finger3 12 ;L foot 13 ;L hand 14 ;L iris 15 ;L jowl 16 ;L knee 17 ;L nostril 18 ;L shoulder 19 ;L hip 20 ;L toe1 21 ;L toe2 22 ;L toe3 23 ;L wrist 24 ;R ankle 25 ;R eyebrow1 26 ;R eyebrow2 27 ;R eyebrow3 28 ;R ear1 29 ;R ear2 30 ;R ear3 31 ;R elbow 32 ;R eye 33 ;R finger1 34 ;R finger2 35 ;R finger3 36 ;R foot 37 ;R hand 38 ;R iris 39 ;R jowl 40 ;R knee 41 ;R nostril 42 ;R shoulder 43 ;R hip 44 ;R toe1 45 ;R toe2 46 ;R toe3 47 ;R wrist 48 ;belly 49 ;butt 50 ;chest 51 ;chin 52 ;head 53 ;jaw 54 ;neck 55 ;nose (bottom) 56 ;snout 57 ;tail1 58 ;tail2 59 ;tail3 60 ;tail4 61 ;tail5 62 ;tail6 63 ;tongue1 64 ;tongue2 65 ;Z-trans 66 ;Z-orient The Animator's Add Balls are a little different in each breed, because of the different needs that different breedz have. For instance, the Poodle has tufts which need to be specified... You can work them out by studying the relevant breed's .LNZ, but I'm not including them here because they aren't relevant to shirts. Now here's a tyupical shirt/sweater section: ; ball color outCol fuzz outType sizeDiff pgroup texture #2.A ; Dog 18 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 42 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 50 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 48 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 7 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 31 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 23 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 47 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 #1 ; Cat 38 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 39 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 6 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 2 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 12 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 13 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 36 35 -1 1 -1 1 0 0 ## end ; ballinfo As you can see from the above lists, 18 and 42 are the shoulder ballz in dogz; 38 and 39 are the same ballz in catz. So the first two of your clothing ballz here are black (colour 35) and are attached to the shoulders of your dogz or catz. Hope that helps Carolyn Horn